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Barb Ortega
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Here we are.  It's all Thought.  Mind.  We're It.  No one in the sky to save us.

If this makes any sense to you, please take a guess as to "why" we would be manifesting Trump and Covid.

 

I don't have a theory about it yet.  It's still too dynamic.  I think it's something you have to zoom way out in space, look back at Earth, and see the overall dynamics from there.  But...why is this happening?

 

Are we exterminating ourselves?  Are we supposed to end up with One World Government? (I say this because the action of the Dao is reversion).  Are we culling ourselves for population control?  Are our bodies evolving in some direction as a result of all this chaos?  Are we seeing survival of the fittest in action?

 

 Are more people enlightening at this point in time?  Feels like it to me.

 

What I'm asking, is to pivot out to the furthest reaches of your thought, your gnowing.  There's no right answer here, other than creative conjecture.  We should be entitled to this information.  After all, if you know who ya' really are............ ? 

 

So help me out here?  I gotta know.

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Manifestation happens on its own and follows its own set of rules (karma). So while ultimately nothing ever really happens, in the manifestation (appearance), the cause and effect paradigm plays a role.

If we take the "human" aspect out of the equation, then is what's happening wrt. covid-19 really that different from the billions of natural calamities and diseases that have ravaged life on earth in the past?

Manifestation occurs as a result of polarity (yin-yang) and as a result thereof, there's always going to be the yin-yang chasing each other, one giving rise to the other. We've taken the extreme Yang approach in the past couple of centuries, and so it is reaching its peak and extreme yang will give way to yin. Maybe Covid-19 is the result of the ratcheting up of yang, until eventually yin starts to appear (may already have). 

Trump represents a sizeable population of the US. In India there's a saying, "Jaisa Praja, waisa Raja". It means, "As the citizens, thus the King". Is it really that baffling? It isn't to me. Being an immigrant, I've seen the decline of the US in the past 20 years. 

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Hmm, I think a lot of things are being manifested because we are letting them be manifested, meaning we let cause and effect determine what happens in the universe. So we effectively run the universe an autopilot and focus on ourselves, where we do end up manifesting things quite regularly. I'm not sure if you ever saw my post on here about reality/time shifting with a coin but one of the points I make in it is that "we keep seeing the same things everyday because our perspectives never change".

 

You might be interested in methods that try to exert creative control over manifesting. Neville Goddard's a good start, the post I referenced above is good too, but generally...

We let the world decide the events around us, but if we simply went forward or backwards in time, and decided what happens without asking for reasoning from cause and effect; the world will naturally change to fit that pattern. It sounds easy, but there's a lot of inner mechanics that stop us from simply saying, "I am rich" and being rich; like the belief that you need to work a job to be rich or that money can't be created out of thin air. These things gnaw at our decisions and return control back to cause and effect.

I've been playing around with this stuff and its generally both a tricky problem and a exciting adventure... I can now just buy a stock without any research on it and decide that the event of it going up has already happened; and it works. Still the bigger stuff still tricks me. How I'd love to simply experience an entirely different world of some sort, thats my end goal with all this.

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Co-arising Conditions.

The mixing of the aggregates.

America is mysoginistic, racist and homophobic.  While he lost the popular vote by 3 million, he got in on the EC and the millions of americans, women and men, who admire his demeanor (gag).

 

I remember the day after Drumpf was elected.  I was upset and got to work and Alexx, a friend on the paint crew came up to me and put his arm around me and said "It's the same America it was yesterday Creighton.  I saw this coming, but I'm of African descent, so I've been seeing and dealing with this element of America my whole life.  For you, it's new, because you love people and you're a straight white guy, so if your brown, gay, or female friends don't tell you what we're dealing with, you are left in the dark.  Most of us don't go around talking about the shit, we deal with it and move on, so that leaves folks who don't deal with it in the dark.  All that's happened is you're more aware of how many people there are like this in America."

 

In the end this is a wake up call for folks like me, who had little way of knowing just how deep the woman hating and the gay despising and the racism runs in my culture... cuz I'm a white straight man who loves people and surrounds myself with loving people and doesn't read much news.

 

At least now, we know how sick we are as a culture, perhaps some healing can come of this... my hope has dwindled somewhat.

 

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I think not being pessimestic is the key, though.  We Are Mind.  We are the torch carriers, those of us that realize that we are all the same Mind, but with separate conditionings.  I think it's incumbent on us and people like us to 'keep our eyes high up in the hills', as the Nazarene said.  If there's going to be a new structure, people like us should be involved in the framing, even if from an unseen corner.  Our postings here and on TDB's are important, and there is much structural and occult wisdom here.  Enlightened thinkers are able to join hands now through the internet.  I think the level of our conversations on both sites, for the most part, are in search of that which is ineffable, good, pure.  As a matter of fact, I would love to take this moment to tell each and every one of you how much I love you.

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Actually, this topic gets much more interesting if we approach it from the perspective that Trump, too, is us.  The Dao doesn't care good from bad, it's impersonal.  So, if all of "us", (including the dastardly ones) are manifesting this strange direction on earth, I'm trying to guess (not guess...see) the cosmic dynamic that is being satisfied by this explosion of chaos.  I'm just wondering WTF the One is doing.  It's all so bizarre.  The Russian play book is about to wind up, as I sense it.  

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I'm not really sure either. It's all so strange. Why am I creating this messy world, these messy issues, and messy desires? Lately I've been just feeling so tired with it all. I don't understand what I'm really doing anymore in this modern world... Money doesn't seem worthwhile, Prestige doesn't seem worthwhile, Relationships not so much either... So why am I doing all this?

All I really want now is to be alone... A big part of me just wants to leave home and everything behind, while travelling wherever the wind takes me. And sometimes I really wonder if I should. But then I remember the debt from college, the family members that rely on me, and all else that gets piled on.

So it really is a strange world. I can admit, that this is a challenge for me to overcome but at the same time... I'd love nothing more than to be somewhere where no one knows me or expects anything from me.

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@mithras yes it can be bewildering at times. My 2 cents worth, do what you love and love what you do. Fulfill your duties in this world but don't give in to unrealistic expectations.

 

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Looking at the dynamics alone, for example, this country is now living within two separate realities.  I mean, the thought bubble one half of the country lives in irreconcilable difference from the other.  Certainly this is part of the plan.  Although you can't really call it a plan if you remember that it's all happening Now.  It's already played out in essence.

 

So what would be the benefit of the most powerful country in the world, (from the point of view of The Intelligence That's Already Happened) living in two bipolar spheres?  What is Life trying to do here?

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At least now, we know how sick we are as a culture, perhaps some healing can come of this

Surely there will be healing at some point. (I know, don't call you Surely). 

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Manifestation occurs as a result of polarity (yin-yang) and as a result thereof, there's always going to be the yin-yang chasing each other, one giving rise to the other. We've taken the extreme Yang approach in the past couple of centuries, and so it is reaching its peak and extreme yang will give way to yin. Maybe Covid-19 is the result of the ratcheting up of yang, until eventually yin starts to appear (may already have). 

 

What would that look like?  Does the reversion of the Dao, as explained in the DDJ, mean that we're going back to the huddle of the original beings?  Like a litter of puppies that all have to be touching each other, feeling whole?  Not venturing out in separation?  Is this human experience, on this particular vibrational level on planet Earth, coming to a close?  Are there other alien cultures that share our same Mind?  Or perhaps they went through the very same process of being stripped down?  there is a huge overriding dynamic at play here that has a purpose that we can't fathom because we can't get out there far enough to see it?  The interplay of polarity....look how fast it can happen now.  I understand the yin and yang dynamic sufficiently, but at this point in time the yin/yang dynamic happens almost instantaneously with our communal consciousness being shared on one platform.  One platform that is virtually unrestricted, where minds from all over the world can communicate instantly.  This is a living, breathing Being of its own that we've created.

I've studied several Sutras; Lotus and Avatamsaka.   One commonality is that there is mention of all the bazillions of Buddha-lands which share in our dynamic.  This has always captivated me; a stratification, perhaps; or maybe just a huge random collection of consciousnesses at different levels.  And wondering if this dynamic on this sphere affects a dynamic on a different alien sphere.

I don't know, at all.  I'm looking for the deep dynamics and they've yet to come into focus.  I'm trying to triangulate what direction it's going in.  I'm looking for educated guesses among the most qualified of educated guessers. ?  You guys.

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My older brother is more of a realist on these topics, not caring much for the ideas of reality being false and universal consciousness. Still, I can admit that I've learned a lot from him. He wrote a really good article recently on behavior conditioning.

https://twocentsonbeing.com/2020/05/10/on-behavior-control-and-capitalism/

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Nice article, thanks for the link.

I can See a pathway for upward movement, and it involves the loss of structure within governments.  If one looks at a concept as seemingly impossible as No Government At All, and a world that coordinates and shares equally the resources, food, and knowledge.  Not putting labels on the formless, not calling it an 'ism' of any kind.

This would be the pathway of this earthly experiment if it were to turn out perfectly, as I see it.  Love and Kindness would be the ruler.  Maybe that's what this is all about.  The breaking of the putrid outer shell of racism, greed, and poverty once and for all.  

Where the first priority would be to take care of the Mother.

That impulse lives within all of us; how deeply we're layered with the outer dross of personality (conditioning) is our obstacle.

 

 

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@manitou What a wonderful world that would be!

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Maybe it's already here and it hasn't unfolded yet.

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@manitou likely very true. We won't notice the beautiful lotus if we're so occupied with the mud!

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Most of my experience of life, consciously, is utterly dependent on my current level of myopia and where I'm focused.  But my level of perception is not 'the perception of the whole truth'.  I find myself constantly needing to be reminded of this when I get bogged down by a news article of horror, or suffer a seeming irrecoverable tragedy in my personal life.  On one level my hand appears smooth, at a more myopic scale, it's ridged with crags and valleys.  Which one is more true?

 

The mud supports the lotus bloom.  I may make a distinction between the bloom and the mud, but this is usually due to interpretation and the level of perception I'm interpreting from.  Whereas, the mud, the seed, the roots, the bloom, the water... they are all tzujan... 'of a thing', or 'of one process'.  Not separate at all, aside from how i interpret it, based on the level at which I'm perceiving it.

 

This is why my practices of going within have been so invaluable.  Change perspective and the universe reflects a whole new paradigm. 

 

Our current strifes, to me, are an aspect of an overall energetic system that my conscious awareness may not have the perspective to take in... so to me it seems like chaos and hellish wrongness... that needs desperately to be 'fixed'.

 

Then I remember my experiences looking within.  And that within my own body, a war rages in my stomach and intestines every time I eat a meal.  Inside my gut, acids dissolve, cells devour one another, it's a bloody war zone of consumption and decay... and yet, that war zone of violence, is what supports the vitality of my overal bodily health.  All the aspects of my body arise together... of a thing.  They are not separate processes, but like Indra's Net... one cohesive unified process.  This cohesiveness of seemingly disparate parts in my own body to me, is reflected in the body and processes of the greater universe.

 

This strife playing out now, due to my level of perception, seems like total unredeemable chaos.  But something deep in my core awareness tells me... 'shhh, the mud the roots the bloom.  it's all of a thing."

 

And for a moment I breathe a little easier... and then, inevitably it seems, I'll return to worry and judgement, and then breathe and release.  It's like a bellows, my entire life process, my mental ruminations, my peace... on, off, relaxed, tense. 

 

I need walls for a house, or a cave, but without the emptiness inside, it would be unlivable.

 

 

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This strife playing out now, due to my level of perception, seems like total unredeemable chaos.  But something deep in my core awareness tells me... 'shhh, the mud the roots the bloom.  it's all of a thing."

 

 

So beautifully put.  I see it as a stepping in and out of myself.  when I'm totally myopic (as you say) and concerned only for my immediate needs, I am in one lane.  But it is possible, once the realization is received, to hop over to the diamond lane and remember, once again, that we are all part of the Whole.  As you say, the lotus.  It's not just one thing, it's a system.

I often step into the diamond lane and wonder what the heck "I Am" doing, lol.  I am Barbara.  I am Creighton. I am Trump.  I am Putin.  I am Charles Manson.  Shit.  I am all of it, seemingly good and seemingly bad.  You gotta love it....

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